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  • This is the Frances Fragos Townsend interview as part of the George W. Bush Oral History Project.
  • The comments and observations of friends and colleagues, drawn from FRONTLINE's interviews with Clint Guenther, Chris Isham, Valerie James, Barry Mawn, Fran.
  • Bethany Townsend became an over night internet sensation for posting this picture of her in a bikini.

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    Frances Townsend Oral History

    Transcript

    August 26

    Riley

    This is the Frances Fragos Townsend interview as part of the George W. Bush Oral History Project. Thank you very much for coming to Charlottesville.

    Townsend

    Sure.

    Riley

    I know this is a busy time for you and we're trying to navigate through some scheduling issues later in the day, but it's really kind of you to come to Charlottesville. We talked before about the confidentiality of the interview. We need to do something to aid the transcriber. I'm Russell Riley, the chair of the Oral History Program, and I will be heading up the Bush project.

    Perry

    I'm Barbara Perry and I'm a senior fellow here at the Miller Center.

    Roberts

    I'm Patrick Roberts, assistant professor at Virginia Tech.

    Jones

    I'm Chuck Jones, professor emeritus, University of Wisconsin in Madison. And I brought my cap. That W is not for "W" [George W. Bush]—

    Townsend

    I'm so disappointed.

    Jones

    —but for the Badg

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    The Man Who Knew

    The Man Who Knew

    Produced and Directed by:
    MICHAEL KIRK

    Co-Produced and Reported by:
    JIM GILMORE

    Written by
    MICHAEL KIRK

    September 11

    3, Murdered

    One of them knew it was going to happen

    JERRY HAUER, Dir. Emergency Mgmt. NYC '' The night before he died, he had said to me, "We're due, and we're due for something big."

    NARRATOR: His name was John O'Neill. And long before the world knew about Osama insekter som pollinerar Laden, FBI agent O'Neill was obsessed with him.

    TEDDY LEB: He was among the first people to see the bin Laden threat.

    NARRATOR: He warned of Al Qaeda.

    TEDDY LEB: He said that we're at war with these people.

    NARRATOR: He warned of the threat to the United States.

    TEDDY LEB: And we better not take them for granted because they are here to hurt us.

    NARRATOR: But people at FBI headquarters thought John O'Neill was too much of a maverick and they stopped listening to him.

    JOE CANTAMESSA, FBI Special Agent NYC: You could be flagged a

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    The John O&#;Neill I Knew

    The comments and observations of friends and colleagues, drawn from FRONTLINE&#;s interviews with Clint Guenther, Chris Isham, Valerie James, Barry Mawn, Fran Townsend, Robert Bryant and Richard Clarke.

    Clint Guenther, Former FBI Agent NYC &#; Counterterrorism

    I would say John O&#;Neill probably should have been a leprechaun, because he always had that little bit of impishness about him. There was always that little twinkle in his eye that kind of indicated that he was about some mischief. But that was really him.

    He was a good, fun-loving, hard-working person. He loved the people he worked with. He was what I would consider an agent&#;s supervisor. His people loved him. At times, they could hate him, too, but there was always that love relationship there with him, because he always stood by his people. He was the type of person who didn&#;t administer from behind a desk. He wanted to be out with the troops. If there was a hot investigation going, he wa